hiv doesn't exist?

I must say this interview is pretty pretty interesting...and it's almost 7 years old!

INTERVIEW WITH DAVID RASNICK
BY GENE MAHONEY

san francisco herald 2000

Recently, South African president Thabo Mbeki sought out AIDS dissident David Rasnick to offer alternative views regarding his nation's epidemic. Here's an all too brief interview I had with the scientist at his Silicon Valley home.

GENE MAHONEY: So tell us about yourself.

DAVID RASNICK: I have a Ph.D. in chemistry from Georgia Tech and I've been in the pharmaceutical industry since 1978. I've developed enzyme inhibitors for tissue destroying diseases like arthritis, cancer, emphysema, parasitic diseases, and I've studied AIDS for 19 years. I've written about it in technical journals.

GM: Nineteen years ago did you think that HIV caused AIDS?

DR: Nineteen years ago HIV didn't even exist. It was 16 years ago, in 1984, that HIV was unleashed upon the world, at a press conference by Robert Gallo. Gallo used to be a member of the National Institutes of Health. He was one of the world's leading retrovirologists and he'd been working on the virus-cancer hypothesis since the '70s and had to find viruses that caused cancers. He didn't find any. He tried to find something else useful or significant about retroviruses and that led to his claim that a retrovirus caused AIDS. Gallo's retrovirus, as we all know now, is called HIV -- Human Immunodeficiency Virus. It is no such thing. It does not cause immunodeficiency.

If HIV did cause AIDS it would be one of the smartest viruses you could imagine, because it knows whether you're male or female, gay or straight, white or black, it even knows what zip code you live in and what country you live in. For example, in the United States eight out of nine AIDS cases are men. In San Francisco 99 out of 100 are men. Two-thirds of AIDS cases in the USA and Europe are gay men. So that's a smart virus, and somehow that virus knows to cause Kaposi's sarcoma in gay men and not in hemophiliacs, not in pediatric AIDS cases, not in IV, blood transfusion or so forth. So it's a very smart virus.

You can either accept that, as the HIV establishment does, or you can be a little skeptical, as [UC Berkeley retrovirologist] Peter Duesberg, I, and the so-called dissidents are, that maybe that's not quite the cause of AIDS. Peter Duesberg and I are convinced that AIDS in the US and Europe is the clinical manifestation of the drug epidemic in both places.

In Africa it's a completely different situation. It's so different that the WHO [World Health Organization] and other organizations, in 1985, had to come up with a different definition of AIDS in Africa because it didn't look anything like AIDS in the US and Europe. The Bangui definition came from a little town in Africa called Bangui.

In fact, I'm pretty sure right now there's no such thing as an AIDS epidemic in Africa, from my previous two trips last May and this July. The reason I say that in brief is that we've looked and looked and asked people, the government ministers, we asked the director of the medical research council in South Africa, the Centers for Disease Control in the US -- everybody we could ask, "What are the numbers of AIDS cases in South Africa and how many AIDS deaths?" No answer at all. Zero. To this date we do not have an answer to that, and in fact, I don't think there is any such thing as AIDS going on in South Africa. It's just the same old things that Africans have been suffering and dying from for generations due to poverty, malnutrition, poor sanitation, bad water, that sort of thing. We're calling it AIDS now, instead of by the old-fashioned names that were more honest.

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"If there is evidence that HIV causes AIDS, there should be scientific documents which either singly or collectively demonstrate that fact, at least with a high probability. There is no such document." Dr. Kary Mullis, Biochemist, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry.

"Up to today there is actually no single scientifically really convincing evidence for the existence of HIV. Not even once such a retrovirus has been isolated and purified by the methods of classical virology."

Dr. Heinz Ludwig Sänger, Emeritus Professor of Molecular Biology and Virology, Max-Planck-Institutes for Biochemy, München.

It's time to re-evaluate the HIV-AIDS hypothesis:

Is HIV really the cause of AIDS ?

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